#tntduo neg

[bistaxx]

An annoyance I specifically have about qsmp tntduo fics is that they don’t even (usually) try to be like the qsmp versions of the characters. They have them act like dsmp, rivals that have a weird homoerotic tension. While in the qsmp, we’ve had Quackity being obsessed with Wilbur and Tallulah < and being convinced that Wilbur was the dad and tallulah was his kid. This is just the early stuff but it’s annoying how they pretend it’s qsmp when it’s clearly not.

(TNT MUTUALS SKIP THIS POST- SORRY ILY I PROMMY SRY! THIS ENDED UP TURNING INTO A RANT LMAO)

(Also none of this is my griping over what people are allowed to write or draw lol- i'm just bitching for my own sake LOL)

Yeah that's definitely a major part of my annoyance too, not helped by the fact that I also dislike /r c!tnt LOL- And I was actually interested in what q!Tnt as dynamic could've been but canon doesn't offer a whole lot to work with these days and fanon like you said either just makes them a poor man's rehash of c!tnt despite their q! counterparts being VERY different form those men or, like a mutual of mine brought up in their post, reduce q!Quack into this poor sad little wet cloth of a man that ONLY qWilbur could ever understand or fix because he's the ONLY man who actually cares about q!Quackity... just ignore Roier, and Etoiles, and Forever, and Baghera, and Cellbit, and Bagi, and- You get the point lol.

I think my last straw personally was seeing everything that Quack goes through be made to be about Wil- getting Tilin? Him and Wilbur can raise them together despite us knowing Luzu was the other parent! He loses his child? Dw he can raise Tallulah with Wilbur! Quackity's been kidnapped and replaced with Elq? Oh no! Onyl Wilbur will ever care or notice :( Just ignore that Jaiden witnessed this happen- Quackity is back, but his memories are gone and his mind severely messed with? Oh Wilbur will fix him- he'll teach him how to read and write and take care of him and they can be a family alongside Phil Tallulah and Chay! Quackity's been kidnapped again? Oh no only Wilbur will care Part 2 even though everyone quickly noticed Elq isn't Q! Quackity (and Phil) have weird tickets? This must be related to WILBUR somehow?! Quackity's DEAD?!? OH NO- WILBUR WILL BE SO SAD AND DEVASTATED! Quackity's back but extremely traumatized and broken after everything he's been though? He needs Wilbur to hug him and heal him :((((((((((((((-

And I wanna take a brief aside to complain about how people treat them and the eggs too- See I really like Quack and Pepito's dynamic, so I give into temptation and look on Twitter to find fanart of them... only to see them paired with Wilbur and Tallulah... with Quackity's OTHER CHILD Richas nowhere in sight! Because he just... doesn't matter I guess even though the two still care about each other a lot and still call each other father and son! Also the god damned disservice this stuff does for Talsy's character too- yeah she'd so be running over to hug Wil with her current growing resentment of him- but to know that'd require people to acknowledge her as more then just Wilbur's cute little daughter who exists only as an extension of him- SOMETHING SHE'S COMPLAINED ABOUT TO PHIL. But back to Quack...

Would you believe me if I told you people also did this shit during KARMALAND too- A SERIES THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE WILBUR PLAYING IN IT! That during the early days people were CONVINCED that k!Quackity was secretly an amnesiac c!Quackity and he was only drawn to k!Luzu because he reminds him c!Wilbur... yes people really fucking said that and god it made me so mad I won't lie 😭 People can headcanon whatever they want that's fine even if I don't gel with, the thing is it was just everywhere during the early Karmaland V days and people were doing to most to push it 'canon' cuz God forbid Q exist outside of Wil or c!tntduo in this Spanish server.

Listen- I never wanna be That Guy who DEMANDS people stop doing this or that- people can do whatever they want- I get missing a ship, I still miss Karmaland Luckity- I just wished people cared about q!Quack for q!Quack and not just tntduo. q!Quackity is a very flawed screw-up of a man with a big heart whose been through Hell and even though he wants to give up still chooses to keep on going for the sake of his new child- not to mention his mysterious connection to Elq and being forced to be a pawn to Oscurucho! He has a lot going for him outside of his celebrity crush! He has a lot of really good and complex bonds with other characters- he has a strong friendship with Etoiles, Forever tried to look out for him after Quackity lost his memories and Quackity in turn was visibly distressed when Forever went missing, HIS WHOLE THING WITH ROIER- LIKE- Quackity being a major part of the betrayal at the start of the server and Roier in turn ruining Quackity's reputation on the server in revenge but Quackity still tries to help Cellbit fix things with Roier during Festa Junina, Quackity admires the strength of Spiderbit's love to the point that it makes it reconsider his own view of what love is after his fake wedding with Wilbur's cardboard cutout, Roier still tried to help Quackity regain his memories when Quackity found Tilin's old diary, Roier is listed as one of the most important people to Quackity, during his hell coma in the maze portion there are photos of him and Roier everywhere, they even share custody of a child now- but no, Wilbur is the only one who gets or cares about Quackity, okay sure.

Anyway rant over- sorry anon I pretty much just used your ask as an excuse to vent about all my grievances I'm sorry 😭 People can send more anons about this if they want but I prolly won't answer- I don't like to bitch too much on this blog- this is the exception to that LOL I don't hate qWilbur either- I just don't care for q!tnt.

[lmanburgseulogy]

I think i dislike c!wilbur revival arc because of tntduo

[king-of-possums]

I’m trying to do more storybroading

[pusangkambing]

I cannot stand qtntduo because too often i see people reducing qquackity's character as just an extension of qwilbur's

Is this a safe space

[werenotacoupleyesyouare]

(Spoilers for ofmd)

Listen. a big part of me wants to say that for a show that claimed to care for its queer audience and built its whole legacy off of that they really. didn't

I had never seen an old queer character drag himself out of all that pain to find comfort and joy in his own queer identity and do so with so much pride, no metaphors or innuendos, just pure queer joy and community. Not only that but Izzy is a nuanced character with an incredible story and personality that were enough to make a show out of. The actors shared fanart and rejoiced with fans, the show itself took pride in being a safe space for queer people.

and then they killed him off in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment just to ensure the main character a get out of jail free card. And he gets buried right next to the house of the man he has spent his entire life looking after.

Before the episode aired, I saw a lot of people talking about having been let down before and that's why they were so afraid of what the finale would hold, but they also said they trusted this show and the people behind it to not do exactly what they did do.

I'm sorry this wasn't that show. But let's remember that ofmd still made a huge impact and might have paved the road for new shows that might be just that. It's alright to be angry and disappointed (heck look at me), but let's not forget all the good things we shared as a fandom. We experienced actors and writers encouraging us to keep making queer content off of the show. We experienced creators loving us as the fanbase and enjoy the ride with us unlike almost every other show that went viral on this web site. And heck, if we exclude the last episode, we experienced A DAMN GOOD, WONDERFUL SHOW!! All of that still matters and it doesn't have to be an ending but maybe a starter point for new stories.

I will still go to my next con cosplaying as Izzy. I'll still keep fighting for queer fandom spaces to be places of love and joy. Till next time :)

[nekole-doodles]

Part #5 of DSMP-coded song series! I haven't done one in a while so I'll do a lightning round of a few random characters or duos!

Philza and Kristin. Come on, it's so sweet, it's literally them

C! TNT Duo(/r)

"One of us just has to change, you say the same"

"Twist my umbrella 'til it's inside-out, Hand you a bouquet of rain"

"Did I shout or think I could save you this way?"

"Then you looked in my eyes and said, 'How dare you love me? When you should despise me? You should be scared of me,' It seems that that's what it means when somebody needs you"

"When the smoke clears are we friends or strangers again? Just a familiar face"

"So how could we separately heal? God, I don't get it. I really don't get it, Could someone tell me how to feel?"

"So watch your step or you'll trip and fall right out of love"

"'Til death do us part, please keep breaking my heart, 'Til it ceases to beat, please be mine"

"So if love conquers all, then all else must have failed, I mean, who wants to fall? Can't we just take the stairs?"

C! Clingy Duo, especially New L'manberg time right before and after Tommy gets exiled

C! Crimeboys or C! TNT Duo(but headcanon-ized), in a what-if scenario if Tommy or Quackity found Wilbur in the button room on the 16th instead of Phil. (C! Wilbur is so JD-coded, this is very old news in this fandom)

C! TNT Duo(/r) /hj but not really. Idk, it just kinda fits how I imagine their dynamic

C! Disc Duo in Exile arc. So fun :D Nothing ever happened ever in exile arc

"Nobody ever loved me, Like she tells me she does" Dream claiming he's Tommy's only friend and no one else cares for him like Dream cares about him.

"Tender as a bruise, sharper than a razor, Wrap her tentacles around me like she'll never let me go, Her fury shakes the rafters, but never in my favor" Whenever Dream gives angry(sometimes physically) at Tommy for whatever reason

"I should be counting blessings, Something is better than nothing, Isn't it, isn't it, isn't it? It's close enough to perfect, What does it hurt, a little bit?" Tommy trying to convince himself that exile is fine and that Dream really is his friend and he should be grateful for him despite how much Dream is hurting him.

[desnayy]

Blocking someone on Twitter cause they were in the replies or whatever of the Eggstatistics tweet saying to "Kill Tallulah"

[anxiouslyextroverted]

kin list

[mcytblrconfessions]

i feel most of the fandom interpretation of c!wilbur is just so out of character and often just changed just so they can make tntduo yaoi or whatever/neg

[thesmpisonfire]

Okay twt refugees! Hello!

First off: Change ur pfp and put a title on ur blog. We have a bot problem so do anything silly in order to not be blocked on sight

Y'all are welcome to my blog, y'all can mass rb all you want bc tumblr doesn't find it weird. Hide your likes and your following bc we aren't cops no one needs to know everything about you

We don't do callouts here, okay? We don't cancel. If you want to discuss something that has been bothering you, act like someone civilized and use the #discourse and #qsmp neg (as an example) so people who don't like these kind of talks can filter it out. If you want to complain about something exclusively happening on qsmptwt, tag it as #qsmptwt neg so we know it's not a problem that plagues us

We use duo names exclusively platonically, like pacmanduo, smoothduo, ohnanaduo, insaneduo. If you want to ship them, use shipping tags such as pactoiles, felpac, 4max and 4bit. Exceptions to this rule are guapoduo, 4halo and tntduo since both platonically and romantic separation is inexistent at this point in the fandom

Also. We strictly separate characters and streamers, but most of us don't use the Q! to specify. If we talking about the streamers, we make sure to let it be clear when it happens. Also, sometimes we talk about gay sex, get used to it. We also love to assign mental illness to the characters since we see them completely separated from the streamers

Welcome welcome y'all! Make yourselves at home!

[dsmppinup]

Calendar Teaser #13

We are working on fixing the printing issue, but in a startling development, we weren't able to print this weekend because we didn't have enough art, so we are now jumping up to an 18-image calendar. So on the negative side, I am having to announce a delay in the calendar until next week (I'm not going to give an exact date in case we hit more issues), but on the positive side, there will be more fantastic art for you to appreciate!

In the interim, please enjoy this teaser from galaxy-lilies, who drew us TNTduo (Wilbur and Quackity)! You can check out more of her work at their blog at @galaxy-lilies.

[bistaxx]

JINX !! tell me why you ship Quackity x Luzu and why you dont ship Quackity x Wilbur I need to know the Lore

Hiiiiiiiii Vin! oh gosh- I'll try to condense this as much as I can OKAY SO...

yeah I don't vibe with tntduo 😭- I already talked about q!tnt so I'll just explain about c!tnt instead:

Why don’t you ship it: The Fandom. Listen I hate saying it but it really is 90% of the reason why- I always try not to let annoying fandom stuff sour my opinions but like... MAN- Because like I actually did really use to enjoy /r tntduo fuck man I was shipping it back in October 17th 2020 after the moment in the button room and especially after the famous Niki's birthday stream like- idk I just liked the dynamic and the chemistry it was fun! I was even still shipping it when I first started getting really into the c!fiances and was hyped when Wilbur and Quackity met up again... but then. IDK- something about the fandom take on their dynamic just didn't click with me it didn't feel like the same characters I enjoyed ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THE WAY C!QUACKITY WOULD GET TREATED- like GIRL- Quackity would not cave and be visibly annoyed or flustered by the first jab Wilbur makes hello-??? or the fanart that would portray Wil as like completely disregarding Q's personal space as this 'teehee funny flirty' thing like I HATED that shit- I also just hated how when I tried to look up c!fiances content I had to filter like 5 million tags to actually find what I was looking for because there'd be so many c!tnt fics that had the fiances tagged in them and 50% of the time it was just so Quackity could break-up with them for Wilbur 😭 I also just like got sick of seeing it everywhere when I wanted to find c!Q content it felt like it was inescapable and that people only cared for my favorite character solely to mischaracterize him in a ship I was quickly growing tired of... yeha I think that sums it up-

What would have made you like it? Um.. All of the above not happening LMAO-

Despite not shipping it, do you have anything positive to say about it? Like I said earlier I DID really like it and I have tnt shipping mutuals who do the dynamic justice even if I got super burnt out on it (shoutout to Thes)

... So anyway uh- SO LUCKITY-

(this will be a lot shorter despite how much I have to say about Luckity I'm just really tired rn SORRY 😭)

This will be about k!Luckity specifically cuz I rly don;t have much of anything to say about q!Luckity outside of finding Arinckity cute

What made you ship it? Started for the fluff and stayed for the toxic ship 😈- GOD Quackity and Luzu fucking outdid themselves with Luckity in Karmaland V like dude it's just so good- like looking back on it the writing was already on the walls that they were so doomed from the very start- like they somehow manage to be both "it's tragic because it didn't have to end this way" and "it's tragic because it was always gonna end this way." if that makes sense. But god at the start it was just so easy to overlook the blaring the red flags because they'd give us just enough hope that it'd end well only for the rug to get pulled during the elections and the whole dynamic get's flopped on it's head but now instead of cute fluff or funny flirting it's this Angry passion and resentment- from start to end they were devoted to each other whether in hatred or in love. The build-up and payoff were both just amazing even if I felt miffed about the ending of the arc at first I've since come to love it because really it's just the cherry on top of their tragedy leaving the possibility they could just end up doing it all over again yeah <3 They were The Moment yeah!

What are your favorite things about the ship? A lot of things but like- I love that they're sun and moon coded <33333 I remember associating them with sun/moon imagery before they took those iconic photos with the sun and moon and like I was so hyped when that happened <3 my toxic sun/moon boys yeah <3

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship? Not really no- but HEY check out this web weave I made about Luckity that I'm still super proud of and debate remaking one day: X :3

[inksolate]

q!Quackity Character Analysis

After the wedding yesterday, I was pondering and you know, q!Quackity is a very tragic character so far. Rewatch Quackity's VOD perspective of Festa Junina and you'll find this quote:

"Maybe just like Sofia, I've got to relearn the process of love too." (Quackity Marries Wilbur in the QSMP, June 11 2023, 1:37:55).

Since the beginning of the server, he hasn't had someone he can let his guard down around until Tilin (and later other eggs). When Tilin died, he lost one of his strongest connections, one that is incomparable to ones formed after. Whereas q!Wilbur has been physically distanced from people of the server, to me q!Quackity is emotionally distanced from people. During Festa Junina when he was looking out at his friends partying, you can feel that loneliness. It seems that his bits and schemes to intervene in other people relations thus far has been hidden call for help or connection.

Yesterday (June 16th, 2023), this became apparent when he was dragged off by Cucurucho after blowing up part of guapoduo's wedding venue. Nobody but Jaiden had noticed his initial departure, and after teleporting to the Federation's office he potentially died alone (unconfirmed because he was only kicked, so it could be a Felps/Cellbit scenario).

His descriptions of what friendship, love, and death feels like upon first meeting Sofia show he has been through a lot thus far. Here are those descriptions from the VOD "Quackity Takes Care of Tallulah While Being Followed" from June 8th, 2023:

"Love is a compilation of, probably, any and all emotions that a human being can feel in their lives, because love can be good, it can be bad, it can be hurtful, it can be joyful. Love is a compilation of all feelings a human will feel in their lifetime" (2:26:50).

"Death is not only when an entity ceases to exist anymore. Death is also another compilation of emotions, usually negative ones. It goes hand-in-hand with love because when someone that you love dies, (and) they cease to exist you start a grieving process. You miss them, you want them to come back, but it's the acceptance that something is gone forever" (2:29:03).

"Friends are people you are around, people that you enjoy speaking to, it's people that mean something to you...These are my friends. They just might seem like people to you, and to some people they are just people, but to me since I got to know them, since I got to hang out with them, they are my friends. They mean more to me more than another human being that I may see on the streets. That is a friend" (2:30:47).

So when Quackity says, "I need to explore other feelings I have right now", although relating to Wilbur in the context of saying this to Tallulah, I think it might also be the cultivation of him managing the grief from losing Tilin, seeking out deeper friendships in those around him, and wanting to trust in others again.

So TLDR: Despite q!Quackity's schemes and bits every now and then, there is a deeper pain residing in his character. I hope that with several other characters concerned about his current wellbeing he can learn to love again (if it truly wasn't his "final day").

(Sidebar: Although people have been saying tntduo should marry soon, I don't think he's ready to dawn someone else's feelings yet. He needs to be able to trust others again, and that's a process that will take time and care.)

[antimony-medusa]

Poll for if SBI win their brackets #5

[barzfrommarz]

Barzfrommarz Intro ~

Hello! You can just call me barz, marz or toby whichever one is easier

Most of my info is on my strawpage! A few extra things will be down below

-I will post/repost dsmp character crit/neg! All will be properly tagged but if you don't want that feel free to block me (c!tommy, c!eret, c!niki, c!fundy, c!phil, c!dream are the main examples)

-I don't like any of the dsmp content creators! I am into lore only. I also don't like any other smps

-I mainly post about c!wilbur, c!tntduo and dsmp in general but I do like other things! Its all on my strawpage

-I use the block button frequently! So don't be alarmed if your blocked by me its probably for a dumb reason anyways

-I delete all hateful asks. I want to try and keep my page as drama/discourse free as I can and I don't want to bother with stupid people. but forgive me if I occasionally put my two cents into a situation I have opinions on

-My side blogs are @ask-the-burs , @toonstimz, @cwilburdaily, @dreamystarsagedre I would love if you followed them! /nf

-Ask box is always open! all asks I respond to are under #dropping some barz

-I’m a “transandrobro” so please block me if you are against that

That's mostly it, I hope you like my page!

[enneamage]

how are people getting upset over tntduo game "implied hooking up" be so serious

The rulesbrain of main and it’s consequences.

I try to have space for people who are offput by sexuality online because lord knows the online space hasn’t historically been great at keeping sexual content away from people who don’t want to see it, so I do think of younger generations going around with at minimum negative early experiences around that. That really doesn’t set people up for unconflicted horomonal success down the road. Having said that, there is a kind of hyper-sensitization that grows in the fan spaces that have gone puritan that genuinely seems to be doing more harm than good.

From what I could tell, the end slate with the nightstand is tame. Simple and to the point: they bang. The fight is if that concept alone is a violation of The Rules. If I were to mind-read Wilbur and Q for a moment, I don’t think that this would be taken as a massive offence in their eyes, I actually think that they would be kind of hype that somebody made a game and have that be the end of it. The issue is that it’s less about them or their will and more The Rules that take on a life of their own to people.

Something that I’ve learned by watching main fight with itself is that all sins are apparently equal when you’re thinking in black and white. If people follow the rules, they get to be One Of The Good stans and outrun shame and blame and stigma and Ccs won’t hate them immediately. If they’ve been bad, they’re gross and everyone hates them and they deserve the contempt of the entire internet. This isn’t really true because people will treat mcyt stans like trash regardless of how well they’ve behaved (this is not fair) but it’s easier to cope when you think you have a degree of control. I think a lot of Main neurosis comes from trying to claw their way up from the bottom of the barrel without fully knowing that that’s what they’re doing, which is why it gets so much worse when they have the chance of being seen by the ccs.

To be honest I think tntduo fans are locked into a shipwar with a certain other Wilbur pair that people can’t admit would be threatened by him being romantic with someone else. As long as one team gets to play it pure and ‘platonic’ they get moral leverage for why they’re superior and are more correct in what they do. We can bring it back around to each subtwt having its own interests, and advancing those interests by using the morality of Boundary Culture as well as social justice language. A lot of people are trying to get what they want by being More Correct, morally and factually and whatever else they can get their hands on.

From a wider lens the opportunity to get rid of anyone, be better than anyone or call out anyone is hard to pass up on main. It’s baked into the system to push people out to try and control noise, chaos and crowd size, there’s no real room for 'redemption' on there. That, plus the massive anxiety around sexuality made this one an easy target.